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  jackbonam (Profile)
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:30 pm
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Hi all

I have a PB1400 and just for the hell of it would like to burn cds using an external scsi burner (I don't think internal burners work). I gather I need Toast 3 for this, as Toast 4 tells me I need SCSI Manager 4.3, which is not present on the trusty old 1400. Any ideas?

Colin
  
  wove (Profile)
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:03 pm
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You are correct the Powerbook 1400 does not have SCSI Manager 4.3. This is in the Mac ROM, so it is not possible to add it via an extension either.

Toast 3.5 is the newest Toast version that will work with the PB 1400. I have used Toast 3.5 to burn CDs on 68k Macs so it should work fine on the PB 1400. You might need to enable termination power on the external case because powerbooks do not provide termination power to the external SCSI.

The Powerbook 3400 was the first Powerbook to include SCSI Manager 4.3. The Quadra 840 was the first Mac desktop to include SCSI Manager 4.3.

bill
  
  jackbonam (Profile)
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:23 pm
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Thanks Bill

I'm new here, and still running 8.6, but intend to give System 7 a try. Will I lose anything?

Back on topic, do you know of anywhere I can get Toast 3.5 or some recording software that will work on the 1400. Roxio are not helpful I believe. I have heard mention of B's Recorder Gold but can't find an old version.

Colin
  
  jackbonam (Profile)
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:41 pm
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Well, success! I found Toast 3.5 at Macintosh Garden, a tremendous site with lots of vintage abandonware, apps and games.

I burned my first CD tonight on the PB1400 (with a G3 233mh upgrade), though I find SCSI temperamental. I seem to have to switch ON the external SCSI recorder first, and switch OFF the 1400 first, otherwise I get various probs - a sad mac, or a locked up mac. And I can't burn on the fly at more than 2X. A full audio cd takes a not too bad 33 minutes.

I have an internal ide cdr but Toast doesn't recognise it. I have heard that B's Recorder Gold would work with the internal drive but I can't lay my hands on an old version to try it.

I have system 7 on a series of floppies and will try it. The idea of running lean, using software meant for the 1400 appeals to me. Any tips that I should follow with regard to the best software to use for word processing and graphics design? And in becoming leaner (and swifter?) do I lose any functionality?

Colin
  
  IronTooth (Profile)
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:29 pm
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Curious - I used Toast 4.1.2 and 4.1.3 OEM to burn any number of CDs on my PB1400. I never ran version 3.x. I'm pretty sure I didn't try burning CDs under System 7 - definitely did under 8.6 and 9.1.

- Don
  
  wove (Profile)
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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:58 am
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The one thing that older hardware does not do well is the internet. eMail remains usable, gopher is seeing a resurgence and newsgroups are still available. Many sites are readable but format poorly, and a great many more are not usable at all.

Any software that did run on the 1400 of course continues to run as well as it ever did. ClarisWorks is a powerful productivity suite and older versions of Office run fine as well. There are interesting software packages that run and open new possibilities. HyperCard can be used for productivity and for fun and opens possibilities on the 1400 that are not used much any more.

As with most old hardware, it is more enjoyable if you keep in mind what it is the machine can do and do not see it as a replacement or substitute for newer and more capable hardware.

bill
  
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