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  Lichen Software (Profile)
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:16 am
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Not for OS 7, but for classic emkail copied below:

Letting Classilla bake a couple more weeks isn't likely to make it any better,
so I'm releasing 9.1 today.

I was unhappy with some of the bugs that snuck into 9.0.4, some of them not
in portions of code I used much, but others I should have noticed, and a
few of those regressions were serious. I've tried to avoid doing that in 9.1
and the most important regressions I introduced in 9.0.4 are now fixed. I am
not fully happy with 9.1, but I think it is an important enough update to
release even in its current form and I apologize to the community for not
having beaten on 9.0.4 more before I released it. 9.1 is what 9.0.4 should
have been.

9.1 is primarily a layout update. I managed to find a fix for infamous issue
65 that prevented layout from advancing further, and was able to restore the
overflow branch. This layout update handles overflow space management much
more correctly, which is an opaque way of saying that the blank spaces you
see on a lot of sites in 9.0.4 will now be properly filled with content. In
fact, 68KMLA renders right for the first time in any Mozilla-based browser
on the classic Mac OS. This also means the dreadful experimental renderer
hack is no longer needed, and has been removed. There are other minor layout
fixes. These don't work 100% on all the pages that used to -- in particular
Apple's nav bar gets "ghosted" for reasons I can't figure out -- but the
number of sites that now work greatly outnumbers the ones that work less.

Also, widget and view code have been revamped to avoid a number of the
scrolling and graphical glitches that plagued 9.0.x. Many of the "scroll
turd" bugs have been quashed by the overpainting scroller in this release.
This makes scrolling a bit slower, but makes the display much higher quality.
For the few sites that can't scroll correctly at all, there is a View > Use
Slow Scroll which forces additional repaints (but is also slower still,
as the name would suggest). Those sites are rare.

Plugins can also now be disabled completely, which reduces a common source
of display instability (turn off plugins if you don't have Flash).

Finally, a few sites that hit worst-case scenarios during reflow now have a
mitigation. While the sites will still appear to hang the browser, you can
abort layout by holding down Cmd-. (Command-Period) and come to a safe halt
without force quitting. This may cause the page to not fully lay out, but you
can navigate on it, and the operation is safe and requires no restart. Paypal
comes to mind here.

Just as 9.0.4 was mostly a JavaScript update, so will 9.2. However, I really
just need to rewrite it from scratch, and we'll talk more about that when test
versions become available. 9.3 will be the next layout update, but I have to
think about how to accomplish it. Despite being still mostly Mozilla code,
Clecko has patches applied in different order and different ways, and it is
getting harder to port arbitrary Mozilla code to it. It's still possible, but
harder. However, a lot of porting will be needed to get a later Mozilla layout
into Classilla, let alone everything else, and it may not even work. I have
to weigh the best way to accomplish that.

Right now, though, you can get it as always from www.classilla.org
and have fun.

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  sierraredd (Profile)
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:15 am
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This looks interesting. I've read the documentation on the main classila site. I run a PB 1400 with a 333G3 sonnet card with 64 mb ram and 8.6 and I've got a 20gb hdd installed. So what would be the best settings for the memory?
  
  Lichen Software (Profile)
  128 MB
 
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:57 am
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sierraredd wrote:

This looks interesting. I've read the documentation on the main classila site. I run a PB 1400 with a 333G3 sonnet card with 64 mb ram and 8.6 and I've got a 20gb hdd installed. So what would be the best settings for the memory?


I am running RAM Doubler and have Classila set to about 80 Mb sugested size.
  
  ClassicHasClass (Profile)
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:48 am
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The creator himself, who also uses Classilla on my PB1400, has my, I mean his, RAM set to 120MB. On the other hand I have a 466MHz in it, so I can put up with a little RAM compression. Um, he can. Even.
  
  Lichen Software (Profile)
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:22 am
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ClassicHasClass wrote:

The creator himself, who also uses Classilla on my PB1400, has my, I mean his, RAM set to 120MB. On the other hand I have a 466MHz in it, so I can put up with a little RAM compression. Um, he can. Even.


LOL

1. Is this total virtual memory or memory assigned to Classilla? I have my total memory set to 160 Mb. and Classilla to 80 Mb.

2. You, er... The Creator, had posted at one time, that perhaps something could be done for System 7. Now I know that The Creator has been Umm... a little busy, to put it mildly, but is there anything coming up on the horizon on that front?

3. Classilla has serious memory demands (well for challenged machines anyway). Would those demands change if a stripped down version was released? Say the difference between Netscape Communicator with the total package and Netscape Navigator with browser only?
  
  JoAT (Profile)
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:14 pm
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I wonder what you... er... I mean the creator would think of someone running Classilla on a 1400/166 with only 16mb of real RAM installed. Virtual memory being set to 100mb and all...
  
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